at Apr 10, 2014 5:35:52 AM
Roosh is a douche, but among #PUA
he's not the worst offender. So much advice floating around the #manosphere
is totes flawed via its hopeless objectification and fantastic projection. In much of it, too, there's an underlying assumption that the, um, fairer sex would NEVER ever express interest in another human unless compelled by some biological imperative except when you game your unwitting quarry. Sigh. The guys who buy into this, what a bunch of damaged and overblown egos. Here's one of his 'newsletters'. #game
I'm a huge fan of meeting girls at coffee shops because their guard is down and they are easier to talk to. It doesn't hurt that I'm usually doing something interesting like writing or studying a language, which helps broadcast that I'm probably a cool guy.
(wow. omg. so hot that guy pretending to read must be!)
I go to coffee shops that are crowded so that I can share a table with a girl. What I do is look around, find the prettiest girl, and regardless of how many books or other crap she has on her table, I politely ask if I can join her. Unless she has a friend coming, the answer will always be yes.
(Thanks for referring to the topics of our interests as crap. Let's talk!)
I sit down, get my book or laptop out, and wait a few minutes before I start a conversation. I make a comment either about a book she's reading or some work she may be doing on her laptop. Here's two lines you can try:
(PRO TIP: it's not creepy AT ALL that some dude a girl doesn't know is looking at what she's doing on her laptop, noooooo.....)
1. "Is that a good book?" Then talk about the book.
(oh god. he's going to talk about a book he probably hasn't read... or just change the subject. whew. bullet dodged.)
2. "It looks like you're working really hard there." Then talk about the work that both of you are doing.
(Man, I always think of giving my number to guys who say they can see I'm busy before interrupting my work to talk about their work! um, I might have to go masturbate right now because so hot just thinking about it, mmmmmmmm.)
Other suitable openers can relate to the environment (maybe how busy the coffee shop is or what type of pastry she is eating). I often say the first inoffensive question or statement that pops in my head that is NOT personal in nature. For example never open a girl by asking what her name is or if she comes to the coffee shop often.
(try to take advantage of her mouth being full--I know this takes practice because if you think about her mouth, you will naturally think of putting things in her mouth, but you must use this opportunity to wow her with some nice juicy things you've already thought of to tell her all about you--a little thing I call 'hook-worms' I'll discuss more about below.)
Even if you don't share a table with a girl in a crowded coffee shop, you can open her if she's within speaking range at a neighboring table. Don't feel that you must be sharing a table with a girl to open her. Many times I've opened a girl wayyyyyy on the other side of the coffee shop when I'm walking out or heading to the bathroom.
("Open" her? Even grammatically, this is objectionable. So... so many problems, I can't.)
In coffee shops you can open with lines so simple they can be seen as "boring," while in a bar or club you should use openers with a little more spice that grabs her attention since it's easier for her to walk or turn away. In the coffee shop environment it's much more unlikely for her to immediately blow you off by leaving or giving you the cold shoulder, so you can use more casual openers.
After you open a girl, you're main goal will be to have a good chat and squeeze in some interesting things you've done recently. Day game is a little different from night game in that you don't need to constantly be "gaming." Simply being interesting will get you a pile of numbers.
(so I guess you both get to have your guards down. it's... it's just too beautiful.)
Now let's see all this in action with a girl I picked up one night at the Chinatown Starbucks in Washington D.C. (H and 7th Street for you D.C. readers). I noticed a young girl sitting at a table only a few feet away from me. She was taking notes from a book.
(h & ...7th street... must go there if the master can do it, maybe I can...)
If a girl has a prop with her then always open her using that prop. I said, "You look like you are working really hard. What kind of book is that?" It was a book on artist Georgia O'Keefe. She told me she's studying art history.
(then pick up the book & use it to prize her legs open. If she protests, distract her by asking her about the topic of the book. It's all starting to come together.)
I replied, "I took art history in college and considered majoring in it but I didn't know what type of job I could get afterwards. The irony is that what I did pick I ended up quitting after six years."
(and it's hookworm time! forget any thought of other potential, less than flattering interpretations, here; just project your intentions because they are all that matter.)
Do you see what I did? I put a juicy worm on a hook, saying that I had a career but quit, presumably to do something more interesting. She bit and asked me what I studied, what job I had, and what I'm doing now.
When a girl asks you a personal question in a day game setting then the number is just about guaranteed. In fact, a girl asking you personal questions is the number one way to tell if she is interested in you or not, because that's how she sizes you up as a potential hook-up, lover, or boyfriend. It's a simple matter of when a girl likes you, she wants to know who you are.
(never, ever consider that she might be being polite. Politeness is part of our arsenal--not theirs. Also don't think she might be bored by your efforts to steer the conversation. Girls have really weak minds, so that could never happen. Stay in control.)
I told her my life story, packaged into a little spiel that I know makes girls attracted to me.
(we all have the exact same tastes! Say the right phrase and our panties will just leap off of us and into your laps!)
I said, "I quit my job and traveled to South America for six months... to find the meaning of life I guess. After six months I was defeated so I came back and now I'm writing a book about my experience."
(gosh, roosh. I guess that's going to be a really insightful book about your maybe getting defeated by the meaning of life. what's the name of that book?)
"Oh that's so cool!" she replied.
(at which point, I call bullshit or suspect some kind of... developmental handicap.)
Note that I threw in more bait: "meaning of life," "defeated," and "writing a book." She further bit on the book bait and I told her about what I was writing about.
(It's this awesome book about how to pick-up girls, you know, without worrying about getting to know them or whatever. I call it 'BANG" because, you know, because life goals are important!)
We chatted for a bit and then when it was time for her to go I suggested we have a drink some time. She gave me her number without hesitation.
When it works it looks incredibly easy. In this case the girl was only 19-years-old so my older age combined with my experience made her very interested in a short amount of time.
(because I offered a minor a drink. like shooting fish in a barrel, really. all the 'bait' I used was really for the sake of my own ego, to make me feel like I was in control and not being used or, um, relying on socially awkward situations to deflect from my shortcomings as a person.)
If you open a girl in a coffee shop and she doesn't like you, she will give you a short, polite answer and then avert eye contact and go back to her work. But if she is curious she will hold eye contact for just a couple seconds longer than necessary to encourage you to continue. And continue you shall until she drifts off.
(pfffft. anotherr possibility: she might be having a mini-stroke. in my 3rd book "Strokin'", I talk about approaching girls under these circumstances. Never allow a minor set-back throw you off your game! Be prepared.)
If you are talking to a girl for a while and wondering if she likes you or not, all that matters is if she is asking you questions. If by the twenty minute mark she doesn't ask you anything, then that means she doesn't care about who you are. Again, no big deal, because not every girl is going to want to get it from you. Try again next time.
(again, no girl is ever going to spend time just being polite, or embrace distraction from homework she doesn't really want to do, or maybe look for something actually interesting in you because she cannot believe people could really be so one note or whatever. and when all else fails, offer to get an inexperienced and eager for experience minor drunk!)
Before I studied the game no girl would ask me questions about myself because I had no idea know how to convey my interesting qualities in a confident, non-needy manner. So the only girls who would hang out with me in college were ones who wanted to use my brain to help them study for exams. I was always the friend and never the guy that girls were sexually attracted to.
(some friend you must have been, Roosh. all the feels. gross.)
After college I decided to get this part of my life handled. I was lucky to have a couple friends who were club rats and knew how to approach and game women. I started off copying their moves and lines and in the course of six years I developed a system on my own that consistently builds attraction and results in phone numbers, make-outs, and bangs.
(but only with people dumber than you, so choose those targets wisely, because any contempt you might come to feel for them may just channel itself into some kind of self-hatred given your compulsion--even need--to pursue these girls, more and more girls, and to think you're in control of them. also because any girl screwed-up enough to latch onto someone like you isn't going to be pretty on the inside.)
I no longer have to be friends with girls in the hopes that maybe one day she will want to have sex with me. I no longer hug my pillow at night wondering why I got shafted yet again. Now I meet a girl, game her, and wait for her to ask me questions that serves as a green light to take the interaction to the next level.
(but somehow, I am still lonely. no girl wants to bang me more than once... and as I get older, it gets harder to 'open' girls without really seeming like a creeper. even though I am doing the same thing I've always done, over and over! Is this the defeat I spoke of?)
I recorded my system into an affordable book that I call Bang. It has everything that I know about girls divided into five chapters of game: Internal, Early, Middle, Late, and End Game. If you decide to buy Bang you also have the option to add Day Bang, my newest 201-page book that teaches you how to pick up exclusively during the day.