commented at Apr 23, 2014 5:14:53 AM
A few weeks ago everyone was praising Massa for ignoring team orders. Vettel does it and its the opposite(although I remember quite clearly Vettel moving over and letting Ricciardo by in China). So many Vettel haters are delusional.
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:57:36 AM
Nothing, he did nothing wrong. he was racing.
commented at Apr 23, 2014 6:13:12 AM
Race to win or stay home!
commented at Apr 23, 2014 6:00:27 AM
It makes the racing and the reporting that little bit more exciting
commented at Apr 23, 2014 6:00:21 AM
screw team orders, its racing
commented at Apr 23, 2014 5:42:42 AM
Clinton R Fitch IV
commented at Apr 23, 2014 5:13:51 AM
If he is faster than someone, he will damn near wreck them in order to get past. Someone is faster than him? He will damn near wreck them to not let them past. The kid is a little prick that needs to be put in his place. I am sure STR would love to have him back.
commented at Apr 23, 2014 5:12:28 AM
nada prodigal son seb is bulletproof under may as well be his dad horner marko
commented at Apr 23, 2014 5:10:13 AM
Seb has it out for Aussies
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:58:00 AM
Kick him out !
Justin D Babbitt
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:55:51 AM
Nothing. Helmut will baby him and cover him like usual.
Michael Dwyer Regan
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:53:59 AM
Nothing and that's why he doesn't care.
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:53:02 AM
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:50:42 AM
care factor = zero.
Christian Genit Hemmerde
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:18:28 AM
por parte es cierto
Luciano Lopez Ortiz
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:30:11 AM
Ahora se tiene k mostrar vettel....
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:31:06 AM
Asi es... Acá se ve a los grandes, cuando están en desventaja
Luciano Lopez Ortiz
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:31:30 AM
Se k faltan karreras... pero kon el koche k tiene ahora(aunk mejore) podra luchar el campeonato?
Christian Genit Hemmerde
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:33:43 AM
cualquier cosa puede pasar y mas si abu dabi es doble puntos..
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:34:05 AM
Aún se puede, la cosa es ver si después de España con los paquetes de mejora se acerca Red Bull o cualquier otro... Sino es asi...
Christian Genit Hemmerde
commented at Apr 23, 2014 4:35:30 AM
falta mejorar los mclaren anunciaron que su problema viene de la temperatura el auto no funciona con altas temperaturas ni con bajas si no con una temperatura intermedia
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:06:27 PM
I don't take anything fox says seriously
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:08:30 PM
Lauda and Massa don't work for fox. Though I agree with you on fox in general lol
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:10:33 PM
Vettel has a good car but isn't winning? Explain that!
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:14:31 PM
I think that Vettel enjoyed having a car that was 0.5-1.5 seconds faster for the last 4 years and the team clearly improved the car to better suit him that entire time. With the new rules, they had to come up with something completely new and it's not to his liking yet, but the upgrades to improve rear grip will come I'm sure.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:15:32 PM
Vettel doesn't like the new car, team should say 'tough luck'
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:16:36 PM
But really, he just doesn't like the car, I don't think it really has to do with it being average, just the new regulations and all. I think he still would have made top 5 consistently last year if he had an average car, a car fitted to regulations he liked.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:22:31 PM
I agree, though to me it proves that Vettel was never the magician that a lot of people claimed him to be. He is a good driver but he's had a very superior car in most races he won. Now is really when we'll see how good Seb really is.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:32:02 PM
Kimi's lack of pace compared to Alonso is just as surprising in my opinion.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:47:39 PM
The Red Bull is, and has been, designed around acceleration out of lower speed corners. This is why it is often the fastest car in the more twisty sectors.
Last year the RB9 had such phenomenal rear downforce that, counter-intuitively, the car actually stuck better when pushing harder and earlier out of the corners. This year much of that rear downforce has been wiped away, and the cars are up on power, so that driving technique is no longer the most advantageous. Ricciardo, as he was already driving an inferior car last year, was actually better prepared to adapt to the new car and the driving style required to make it work.
Seb and the last few iterations of the Red Bull were in the rarefied position of having a car designed around each other, that played off both their strengths. Seb adapted his driving style to suit a particular strength of the car, and with that Red Bull was able to continue capitalizing on rear end downforce gains, because their driver was uniquely suited to drive it the way that was fast, instead of the way that was normal. Seb has been driving to that specific set of parameters to take advantage of the car's strength for the last four years. He's still the driver that scored points in his first race in a BMW and won in the STR in the rain at Monza. It is probably going to take him a little while to adjust to a style that is best suited to the car. You can tell exactly what he is struggling with, since he is running higher downforce settings than Daniel, and causing the tires to go off faster. There's a happy medium there that has not yet been found. Meanwhile, nearly all of the drivers in F1 are pretty hot shit, and sometimes something changes that one is able to capitalize on better than others. Because he has won so much in the last several years, when he runs in the top five everyone suddenly decides he's off his game. News flash, 21 drivers are off their game every race of the year, and in F1, the drivers are only the final piece of the puzzle that determine where they are going to end up.
The Renault engine goes without saying.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:52:00 PM
Short version: completely change your driving style next time you're at CalSpeed and still hit the same lap times.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:56:07 PM
On the topic of engines, I'm wondering how Renault and Ferrari compare.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 8:05:25 PM
The main issue he is having, for me, is the lack of the blown diffuser which is causing the car to be naturally more unstable. Not having had full use of the blown diffuser to the extent Vettel had, Ricciardo isn't finding the car too different and perhaps more stable than his previous cars. Vettel on the other hand, is trying to retain the same level of downforce whilst keeping speed, but is struggling to find the limits without going over the top. Every bit of downforce added mechanically or aerodynamically now is greatly affecting tyre wear, which quickly reduces grip and stability, a vicious circle!
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:07:55 PM
that bang will be his underpowered Renault power unit
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:08:00 PM
Interesting to see when the car isnt there his team mate is faster.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:21:30 PM
"Sebastian, Daniel is faster than you. Again..."
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:08:53 PM
Its only easy when you have the best car. Its clear he can't race.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:14:17 PM
Meanwhile there are two Australians with huge grins on their faces!! :)
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:08:02 PM
Christian Horner was also confident FIA would reverse their decision on Ricciardo's penalty... Yeah...
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:15:50 PM
just goes to show with an average car seb is an average driver
commented at Apr 22, 2014 5:45:54 PM
Always smiling this guy 😀
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:40:55 PM
Lewis Hamilton is by far the best driver.. not only coz hes got the best car this year but what you got to remember is look how he dragged mclaren round getting the best out of what hes given is his art .. where are mclaren now. He was always in contention with a bad car. Vettel on the other hand was gifted a car that had unbeatable pace and down force.. where is he now
commented at Apr 22, 2014 5:03:31 PM
yes, he will be on top again, on two conditions: 1.sabotage Daniel's car
2. improve the RB 10
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:31:36 PM
Has proved what everybody has been saying for years. Seb only won the titles because of the far superior car he was driving. Webber wasnt a fast driver to challege in the same car. Riccardo has proved in the same car already that seb is a lame duck and does not deserve the titles he won. Any other driver bar webber in a red bull and seb wouldnt have 1 title. FACT
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:12:35 PM
How can he be this mega talent when he can't beat his team mate..... in f1 you thats always your first competitor.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:44:48 PM
Agree with Kris Young, only have to look at what happened to mclaren last year and also where Mercedes finished last year to see what a gifted driver Hamilton is even without the full package
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:29:59 PM
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:15:45 PM
It's between Rosburg and Hamilton I hope. I want Hamilton to win
Sergio Martínez Tejada
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:47:31 PM
Vettel is not as good as they said. It's just a good driver, the car used to make the difference, that's it, that's formula 1. Alonso or Hamilton with less championships are far better. Like the legend Ayrton Senna and others.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 5:26:01 PM
He never was and never will be in the same class as hamilton. THE END!
commented at Apr 22, 2014 5:25:39 PM
I'm waiting for this moment on TV
Never gets old
Daniel 'Bassline' Baker
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:25:42 PM
I hope not!! Much prefer seeing him sulking rather sticking that f#@king finger up all the time ;) haha
commented at Apr 22, 2014 6:16:24 PM
Could this picture get more than 100 likes ?
commented at Apr 22, 2014 5:55:48 PM
Horner will do ANYTHING to ensure his beloved Sebastian is happy. Two races, two sets of team orders to move over, both times ignored. Yeah great team player. #TeamRicciardo
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:54:20 PM
i can see vettle still winning the championship remember two years ago when there was 7 different winners at the start of the season who was champion that year ????
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:36:22 PM
We are not haters just pointing out the facts last year it was vettel the greatest driver ever and this year out driven by his team mate lol
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:21:49 PM
Riccardo is making him look average , that's why he's throwing his toys out the pram, long may it continue.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:21:48 PM
hahaha keep dreamin Horner. Its all about Riccardo now! Vettel just had a good car, and now he doesn't. About time someone else won the championship!
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:22:18 PM
No surprise. Always knew Vettel was overrated.
Prem Mathew Jacob
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:36:34 PM
Vettel is just a machine aided champion. It was always the machine, his skills are average. He would be smashed continuesly if he ever were in a team with Hamilton or Alonso
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:52:20 PM
is it? i thought magnussen getting a podium on his debut race was far more surprising! ricciardo clearly showed potential last year, and Seb isn't even the best driver in the paddock, let alone one of the greatest of all time, i think everyone knows that Alonso is the best, he's worked wonders in that Ferrari
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:24:18 PM
If Vettel had been in a team with Hamilton or Alonso as team mate he wouldn't of won 4 world championships.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:26:33 PM
Alonso still way better than Sebastian Vettel
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:42:23 PM
"Time will tell us," Alonso said. "There are many years [to go in his career].
"He is 26 years old, so when he will have a car like the others, if he wins, he will have a great recognition and be one of the legends in F1.
"When one day he has a car like the others and he is fourth, fifth, seventh, these four titles will be bad news for him because people will take these four titles even in a worse manner than they are doing now.
"So there are interesting times for Sebastian coming."
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:47:31 PM
Webber was the 1 doing all his job for the past seasons!!!!
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:25:31 PM
Good for him. I like him and I loved Mark Webber.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 3:52:23 PM
Vettel will be forgotten about, horrible unsporting spoilt brat of a man. Throwing his toys out the pram when things don't go his way. Good on Ricciardo, likeable guy, hope he runs vettel straight out of red bull.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 3:01:12 PM
Vettel is only as good as his car thats why...
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:45:01 PM
This is sport and these men act like children when given orders. I enjoy the interactions LH has with fans whereas Seb seems to have his head stuck up his... if this sport wants to grow and entertain its spectators in-fighting is not the way to go. D. Ricc seems to understand the game better than Vettel. His time is soon upon us.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:24:34 PM
The best driver each year is the one who's team manipulated the rules the best. This year it's Hamilton's team.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:56:46 PM
Would have loved to be in mark webbers house on that day!!!
commented at Apr 23, 2014 3:20:16 AM
I love the people who say seb sucks and just had a fast car. Lol the red bull was not the fastest cars in a straight line in fact it was one of the slowest. It was fastest in the turns. Seb was a brilliant driver of a high down force car ie blown defuser. He could get on the throttle a hell of a lot earlier and carry more speed in and out of corners. Now he can't and I think it is messing with him. I think he does not understand how to drive a very high torque very low down force car. His tires do not last com paired to dans and it is due to driving style he must hate a nervous car.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:04:36 PM
What goes around comes around sometimes 10x folds
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:03:57 PM
Fuk vettel. Goes to show his championship last year was allllllllll car
commented at Apr 22, 2014 3:51:30 PM
Vettal is like a child he sulks if he don't win
Rob Bricky Norburn
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:52:58 PM
No suprise at all..vettel nowt special
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:23:33 PM
Its no surprise to me I always thought he was an average driver.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 3:22:43 PM
Dave Ryan alot of British fans might not have liked Schumacher for because of his battles with Hill. But I don't think there's many people that can't admit Schumacher was clearly the best driver of his time, maybe of all time.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:32:39 PM
dunno why everyone has to knock Vettel constantly. ricciardo has done a great job so far. good stuff from all the teams letting the drivers race, it would be dull without the infighting. despite having the fastest car this year, I still rate Hamilton top - deserves at least one more championship.
commented at Apr 23, 2014 3:26:09 AM
British fans are the loudest and most obnoxious in their hate for a German who loves everything English. Very sad for Vettel, very typical for the British.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 7:54:35 PM
Seb was nevr a good racer,he had a fast car,that won his titles...his not a team player,its all bout Vettel...mercedez gave up on the title chase last year 2 work on their 2014 race car.now they hav the race car and Seb cnt step up 2 the challenge with driving skill, Daniel always had the talent,jus not the car 2 complete him!im a full on Ferrari supporter bt this is Hamiltons year
commented at Apr 22, 2014 6:48:59 PM
given the overall complexity of F1 cars over the last 20 yrs. or so no suprise to me,daniels crew did a better job of setting the car for him just like Lewis's team did for him this race. If you watched the previous race the battle between Lewis and Nico is more representative of equal cars
commented at Apr 22, 2014 3:55:35 PM
But, why didn't Vettel obey team-orders?.... He isn't fair player
commented at Apr 22, 2014 11:29:04 AM
He was passed by Kobayashi. LOL!
commented at Apr 22, 2014 10:57:05 AM
Tough luck to Vettel
Irmantas Gintare Jakas
commented at Apr 22, 2014 5:27:05 PM
I knew he doesn't have a tallent it was just a car previous years.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 10:55:43 PM
Tripped on his - "Dont you know who I am" ego
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:42:05 PM
Someone tag mark webber
commented at Apr 22, 2014 4:37:34 PM
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commented at Apr 22, 2014 11:31:09 AM
commented at Apr 22, 2014 11:25:32 AM
still trying his luck! i hope he makes it
commented at Apr 22, 2014 11:09:49 AM
Zena Coyne 😘
commented at Apr 22, 2014 10:56:05 AM
commented at Apr 22, 2014 10:54:13 AM
Vettel was just slower than Di Riccardio!
commented at Apr 22, 2014 11:11:51 AM
The room seemed unusually tense, and where did the other two herberts go.
Manish Kumar B Lodaya
commented at Apr 22, 2014 1:21:45 PM
commented at Apr 22, 2014 8:59:04 AM
E. Others ... David Moyes :))
commented at Apr 22, 2014 10:06:27 AM
commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:57:10 PM
Hello Aaron Middle Harvey..... how did he get a season to set up his car when they are all totally Brand new cars this season.......Mercedes have got their cars working better than all the rest......But they have had the same time as all the big teams to set them up...
commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:52:10 PM
Lewis is looking good..... How good a driver is Vettel now he ain't got best car......lol...He can't blame car now look what his Rookie partner Riciardo is doing........Nah stick yer finger up yer nose Vettel. That's all its good for....
commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:21:41 PM
Surely the answer is Mercedes. Clearly this is moe important than the driver this year!
commented at Apr 22, 2014 8:54:19 PM
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Aaron Middle Harvey
commented at Apr 22, 2014 1:58:53 PM
Only four races in Yh Hamilton on a great start to the season rosberg also good start to season we will see how the other cars compare in the European races Mercedes have a dominant car so far but it was same as red bull they had few good races to begin with then had a bad stint and second half they dominated through to the title if like Hamilton to win it since he won his first champion ship the maclaren didn't give him a good enough car when Lewis moved to Mercedes they allows him one season to adjust his car and nw you can see he is flying in his car setups. How often do u see a lead of 10+ seconds in most races not only that Chinese race his tires where great which was good to see considering it was tire issues last season as to why they wasnt at their best on the races
commented at Apr 22, 2014 11:04:40 AM
Michael John Saunders
commented at Apr 22, 2014 10:56:55 AM
commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:46:26 AM
At this rate, it looks like Hamilton but Rosberg is still there... Not sure about the others because they're lacking points like, way behind.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:38:00 AM
to early to say in my view there are still a lot of races to go
commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:26:51 AM
Could be between Rosberg and Hamilton
commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:26:43 AM
Hope it's not D - got very bored with RBR
commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:22:57 AM
Not keen on the lad but im going with Hamilton...the racing Gods are smileing on him....
commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:22:15 AM
I don't care, so long as Lewis Hamilton
commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:17:47 AM
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Dominic James Sibthorp
commented at Apr 22, 2014 8:12:34 AM
Hard to say. As things stand, could be either A or B. But if RBR get their act together, and they will, D could be a factor.
Chrissie Louise Jenkins
commented at Apr 22, 2014 8:10:40 AM
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:56:28 PM
Could be Rosberg but I would love to see button do it again. As long as it's not Hamilton or vetel
commented at Apr 22, 2014 2:28:02 PM
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commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:41:16 AM
One of Mercedes by far. Probably Hamilton but i'm hoping Rosberg if not Alonso
commented at Apr 22, 2014 10:24:16 AM
he only won his four championships because he had a good car but now he cannot win because he does not have a good car. this proves he is not as good as fernando alonso. alonso can win even in a bad car like ferrari in (2012,2013etc.) if he was in mercedes he would have destroyed everyone
commented at Apr 22, 2014 9:01:19 AM
Vettel can't digest others winning & not him
commented at Apr 22, 2014 1:18:51 PM
"Make my team mate slower !"
commented at Apr 22, 2014 8:30:47 AM
Hes 4th Of All Time Dont Put him down like that. He can Drive and wins Most races by half a minute.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 3:33:45 PM
Vettel NEVER knew how to drive anything other than the best car in the field.... only when the red bull was miles out of everyone elses league was he able to win... before that he was nothing... and again now he is nothing. Riccardio is showing him for the average driver he really is.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 12:19:15 PM
2 things Vettel has going for him - he's a quick learner, and impress importantly, he's a strong finisher.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 12:17:10 PM
Sounds like the silly season is over, it's a shame it lasted 4yrs....so Quad-boy is a mediocre driver like "Filippe baby"...what a genius Arian Newey OBE is!!
commented at Apr 22, 2014 12:05:19 PM
or a driver in the same car regularly out performing him!
commented at Apr 23, 2014 5:51:17 AM
vettels averageness exposed when car not the best
commented at Apr 22, 2014 8:37:51 PM
Well now it's gonna be the same exact thing.......only with Hamilton dominating.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 8:22:46 PM
Good... No need to read article, that'll do me
Katherine Rollin Villeneuve
commented at Apr 22, 2014 6:09:56 PM
Massa is just a hot head idiot. go vettel go!!!
commented at Apr 22, 2014 3:26:19 PM
Matthew A Clarke
commented at Apr 22, 2014 12:59:58 PM
I really don't believe Ferrari's car was as bad as they kept throwing out there in 2012 and 2013. Was it perfect? No, but if the car was so bad as they kept saying over and over again. Then he (Alonso) wouldn't have been able to win races and that's not to say Alonso can't drive. You don't win championships in bad cars. No one can digest not wining once you won a championship once let alone four times in a row.
commented at Apr 22, 2014 11:57:02 AM
Seb had a car designed around his driving style and now he doesnt and its tough for him.
Gerardo Cruz Espinosa
commented at Apr 22, 2014 3:11:10 PM
commented at Apr 22, 2014 3:00:28 PM
Hopefully the egotistical little twit learns something from this....