at Dec 19, 2014 8:44:58 AM
55bructrax in his youtube channel:
Most experts like coaches, players, journalists agree that Pele was the best.
People who say that football is better now are always too young and ignorant about reality and history. In Pele’s time the conditions were much tougher, no yellow cards, sending offs were only in extreme situations, pitches were not like todays, ball was heavier, shoes were not as good, no substitutions allowed until 1970, no back-pass rule so game was slower, and the offside was stricter, not allowing play in case a player is not participating like it is done today, with FIFA having changed it in the 90s to promote attacking football and more goals. Those critics also pretend they don’t see how immense Pele was athletically, his air skills, agility, absolute speed, agility, stamina, and the fact that he endured over 1300 career games over 20 years at top level under the world spotlight. Pele often had to play 3-4 games a week and would tour the world with Santos for 2-3 months a year playing over 25 games against the best teams of Europe and other continents.
Pele surpassed all those great Brazilians which says it all. Made it to a star studded world cup squad at 17. Maradona didnt make it in 1978 in an Argentina squad considerably weaker than Brazil 1958.
In Pele’s time the best league in the world was the Brazilian where all the world champions of 1958, 1962 and 1970 played all their career. Very few players went to play in Europe, like Altafini(Mazola) and Amarildo who were benchers for Brazil and surpassed by Pele but became top scorers and legends when they went to play for Juventus and Milan. Very few south americans played in Europe, nothing like today. Pele surpassed all those legends that played for Brazil and played in the combined Brazilian league(Rio-SP championship, and Taca Brasil) where Santos faced the best teams from all Brazil. His goal ratio was the same in any competition he played, friendly, Brazilian leagues, official, World Cup, qualifiers, you name it, which proves that the opposition was never too easy. His worse goal ratio was actually in USA with Cosmos when he was 35-37 years old. That says a lot about his worth. Maradona surpassed who? Valdano and Burruchaga lol. Pele also faced the greatest teams all time, Germany 70s with Beckenbauer, Muller, Netzer, Maier, England 66-70(Moore, Charlton etc), Italy 1968-1970(Euro champions of 68), 60s Inter(who inroduced Catenaccio), Benfica, Milan, Juventus, Real Madrid of Di Stefan, Puskas etc, Barcelona of Kocsis, Czibor and Suarez, etc and many more. Maradona faced teams in the 3rd tier tournament(after the European Cup/UCL and Cup-Winners Cup in Europe (UEFA Cup), when English teams were banned(1985-1990) due to Heysel and his best World Cup game he did it against Belgium, not exactly a football powerhouse. Pele’s best games were against France, hosts and among the best in the world during the 50s Sweden and of course 4-time World Cup winners Italy in 1970.
Pele faced all those greats that Pele haters praise(contradicting themselves!) when they play for Brazil(Garrincha, Didi, Vava, Gerson, Tostao, Rivelino, Jairzinho) and beat them every time. Among Pele's victims is Botafogo (which had Garrincha, Didi, Nilton Santos, Amarildo, Jairzinho, Zagallo), Santos beat them 4-0 in Copa Libertadores 1963 and also 0-5 in the Brazilian league. Others were Rivelino's Corinthians which didn't beat Santos in a game for 11 years in a row during Pele's time!!! All those Brazilian greats were not even close to matching Pele's dominance at club level.
Santos won that tournament(Taca Brazilian League) 5 times in a row in the 60s, never has happened before or after!
Pele scored 204 goals in 195 games vs European teams, all of them Away games in Santos long Tours around the world, and beat the best defenders and goalkeepers ever: Beckenbauer, Bobby Moore, Burgnich, Facchetti, Nilton Santos, Elias Figueroa, Banks, Yashin.
Pele's goal ratio was even better vs European teams than vs Brazilian. Maradona’s best goal ratio was vs low division teams in Coppa Italia and in the weaker Argentinian League.
Santos won 2 Copa Libertadores and 2 Club World Cups and would have won more if they had not withdrawn on 3 occasions in the late 60s. Thanks to Pele Santos became one of the best teams of all time and the best of the 60s defeating all the European Champions like Milan, Inter, Benfica. Without him they were nothing before and after. Maradona was never even close to that. In the European Cup/Champions League he was out from the first round, he didn’t do anything.
Maradona failed in all three of his Copa America tournaments, in 1979, 1987, and 1989, the last one held in Argentina. Never even reached a Final! On the other hand, Argentina without Maradona won 2 Copa America (in 1991 and 1993) and the Confederations Cup of 1992. No excuses there, Copa America is not as hard as the World Cup and Argentina have won it more times than even Brazil. 18-year-old Pele was the top scorer and MVP of his only Copa America in 1959, also held in Argentina.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959_South_American_Championship_(Argentina)
Both Pele and Maradona were Number 10s, second strikers. Pele had as many assists as his goals and if it was that easy to score in his time then why nobody else was even close to Pele's 1280 goals. Pele had as many assists and more goals and assists in World Cups:
Pelé Passing Skills and Assists - VOLUME 1
Pelé 50 Assists
Pele: 12 goals and 10 assists in 14 world cup games
Maradona: 7 goals(the 8th was hand) and 8 assists in 21 world cup games
Pele also has the all-time world record for most official goals(757) and League goals(650).
Maradona could only score a lot in the weak Argentinian League. He scored 2 goals in about 20 European competition games in the 80s and 40% of his goals in Napoli were penalties.(30 of his 88 Serie A goals!) Napoli was not a weak team either, rather a team that relied on defense like most Italian teams. They had many international players like Alemao, Careca, Carnevale, Ferrara. They also faced less competition in Europe since English teams were banned from 1985 to 1990.
INTERESTING FACT: Serie A goal average is practically the same(about 1.9-2.2 goals per game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966–67_Serie_A
) in both Pele's and Maradona's era, but that doesn’t make it the best league does it? In Pele's time the Brazilian League was by far the best, a League whose players won EASILY three World Cups during that period(1958, 1962, 1970)
Maradona disappointed and failed in 3 out of his 4 World Cups, Pele always performed great in the World Cup(1958, 70, 62 and 66 until his injury) scoring in all of them. And don’t use the typical ridiculous argument about who had better teammates, because we are comparing Pele and Maradona’s plays and actions not their teammates. Maradona could not even perform against teams like El Salvador in 1982 World Cup, and in Pele’s time there were no yellow cards and sending offs were rare. The brutal treatment Pele got in 1966 by the Portuguese and Bulgarians has never happened to any player in World Cups. Gentile was really gentle compared to what Morais did to Pele in 1966. So in 1982, Maradona flopped despite playing for the reigning champion team of 1978 next to stars like Kempes, Ardiles, Passarella, Valdano. In 1986 Maradona cheated and Argentina benefited from many more days to adapt to the high altitude of Mexico City than its opponents, and also given more rest days than them. 16 more days to acclimatize compared to England and 2 more days rest before facing them. These are facts. Maradona not even selected in 1978, Pele beat his competitors for a place and was selected in a team that was much better than Argentina’s in 1978. In 1990 Maradona was again a flop, scoreless, missed a crucial penalty, should have been sent off for hand in his goal line vs USSR and completely neutralized in the final. In 1994 he was a joke again, doped.
Brazil won 1962 with Pele injured, but haters don’t like to talk about 1966 when they were humiliated without Pele. In 1962 Brazil was helped by Pele in the first game to beat Mexico(Pele scored and assisted for Brazil to win 2-0) and they had continental advantage since they have never lost a game to European teams in a World Cup in the American continent since 1930 when they lost to Yugoslavia.(only lost by penalties to France in 1986) !!! The only South American team they faced was weak Chile...
It is a myth that Argentina were a weak team in 1986. Many of their players like Pumpido, Brown, Ruggeri won that same year the Copa Libertadores and Intercontinental Cup with River Plate. Valdano was the striker of Real Madrid and Argentina relied on their defense. In 1982 Maradona failed playing for the reigning champions next to legends like Kempes, Passarella, Ardiles, Luque, Tarantini.
Maradona missed important penalties(UEFA cup Napoli vs Bordeaux and Spartak, v Yugoslavia in 1990 WC). Pele didn’t, his penalties were flawless.
Trying to degrade the Brazilian league is typical ignorant response from people, who at the same time say that Pele’s teammates in the national team were great. Well, all those teammates played in the Brazilian league their whole life.
Maradona fans always use double standard and hypothesis. Never facts.
Maradona's only success came in Napoli. Serie A is a bit overrated, even Verona won that league in the 80s(1985). In Maradona’s first season there(1984-85) Napoli only finished 8th in the League. The previous season they finished 11th, not a big difference. The following years they bought more great players like Careca(second top scorer in 1986 world cup and main striker of Brazil in the 80s). All the rest Maradona's his career was far from impressive. 1 continental title(UEFA Cup 1989) in 21 years career!!! If football is a team sport then people cant say that "Maradona won 1986 world cup alone" and "made weak Napoli champion", because that is contradicting to the "team sport" arguement
In Argentina Maradona only won the Metropolitan League once, in 1981 with Boca Juniors and nothing with Argentinos Jr. So only 1 out of 11 tournaments from 1976 to 1982. The other tournament in Argentina, the Nacional league was of low level since it had about 10 teams from the lower division, 32 in total. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campeonato_Nacional_1980_(Argentina)
Maradona had his best goal ratio in that low quality tournament. In 1985 Argentinos Juniors won the Copa Libertadores without Maradona, all the years he was there they won nothing. In 1986 River Plate won the same title, and the Intercontinental Cup, same year that Argentina won the World Cup.
In skills Pele was much better, no flaws, and his decision making far superior, full games show that, highlights are misleading. Pele was a much better athlete too and more consistent. Most experts also rate Pele as better than Maradona.
Football is not freestyling. In football the objective is to score goals so you win matches and titles. Maradona fans describe Maradona as a "god", but he had too many flaws in his game for that, Maradona was a great playmaker, but there were many others just as good, even in his era(Zico, Platini) He had great dribbling, but if one checks his solo goals or plays in his career, very few of them were in crucial parts of a game. Pele on the other hand scored and assisted when needed the most.
Maradona’s finishing was far from Pele’s, and it can be seen well in 1982 World Cup where he played in a more advanced position. His heading ability and shot power was average. Messi for example has surpassed him already in that field